Nature Tripping Podcast

Nature Tripping is a podcast project by Jo Kennedy and Cathy Shaw based on the simple idea of making small audio trips outside to explore nature in Britain. We’ve been into the woods, up to the moors, down to the river bank, on to estuarine mudflats and even across the sea to remote islands. We like to chat but also listen-in to the surroundings, so in each podcast you’ll find a mixture of informative conversation and the sounds of the local surroundings and wildlife. We made our first episode back in November 2019 and have continued on and off since then as time allows, with recent episodes including conversations with ecologists and environmental organisations, artists and scholars. You can listen to all episodes here, or find Nature Tripping on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Castbox and other podcast directories.

I love the pace of these podcasts. Informative and entertaining commentary but the place with its nature and sounds is allowed proper prominence. Great sound recording
— Mr Nemeton, via Apple Podcasts
Felt like I was on a brilliant bird watching walk with an expert listening to this....can’t wait to listen to the next one!
— Calder Valley KT, via Apple Podcasts
Just tweeted your podcast - very good sound quality and you guys have very appealing broadcast voices
— Mark Devenport, former BBC political editor
Nature Tripping Episode 26 - Sounds from a Hebridean Coast
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Nature Tripping Episode 26 - Sounds from a Hebridean Coast

It’s always a pleasure to hear from our listeners and on occasion people have asked for an episode dedicated purely to nature sounds. This is one such episode.  It’s a compilation of ambient field recordings made around the coastline of the Hebridean island of Tiree.  Slow radio indeed, and we recommend listening on headphones.
This is an energetic and vibrant landscape.  You can immerse yourself in the elemental sounds of waves and wind, and experience a wide variety of birdlife.  We begin the episode with the faint cry of sea eagles high in the sky, then move back to the seashore, plunging down to listen to the underwater sounds of a limpet steadily munching its way across a rock, and the popping and crackling of a forest of sea kelp. Back on dry land and a little way inshore a fulmar colony prepares for the 2024 breeding season on a small cliff outcrop, in the close company of nearby starlings.  We also meet common gulls, oyster catchers and redshank going about daily life on the shore and as darkness falls pay a visit to a grassy shoreline field to hear the night-time activity of snipe and graylag geese, before finally returning to the waves.

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Nature Tripping Episode 25 - House Martins
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Nature Tripping Episode 25 - House Martins

A stone’s throw from the river in Hebden Bridge town centre Jill and Kathryn make a discovery under their eaves: House Martins have arrived! A summer of ups and downs follows and we track events over the year to learn more about the lives of these ‘epic’ little migrant birds, and how to love a ‘pile of poop’. We also find out more about Britain’s other Spring arrivals swifts, swallows and sand martins, and how to tell them apart.

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Nature Tripping Episode 24 - Rewilding
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Nature Tripping Episode 24 - Rewilding

What does rewilding in the British Isles mean, how do you start it off, and what happens when you do? In this episode we visit the 3000 acre Broughton Hall estate in Yorkshire with Rewilding Britain’s Alastair Driver to see how nature is bouncing back. A wide range of interventions and actions are now underway on land that was conventionally farmed for sheep and crops until very recently. Whether it’s tree planting, leaky dam construction, the introduction of ecosystem engineers (beavers), or just letting nature do its thing and embracing ‘scruffication’, the benefits for wildlife, the environment, the climate and people are compelling.

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Nature Tripping Episode 23 - Building Resilience
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Nature Tripping Episode 23 - Building Resilience

In an episode centred on climate change and community resilience, Jo and Cathy stay in their local town - Todmorden - to chat with Barbara Jones, a pioneer of natural building methods. Sustainable materials including lime, clay, wool, wood fibre and straw as well as stone and timber come into their own. We find out practical steps we can all take in our homes, whether they are old or new, to improve breathability (thus minimising unwanted condensation and mould), reduce heat-loss, and shield indoor spaces from increasing outside temperatures. Barbara also tells the story of how the local college, condemned for demolition, was rescued by the community and is being transformed into a grassroots hub, sharing the skills and resources needed to take on the climate change challenge.

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Nature Tripping Episode 22- Natterjack Toads
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Nature Tripping Episode 22- Natterjack Toads

In this episode we visit Gronant and Talacre dunes with Mandy Cartwright from the Amphibian and Reptile Conservation Trust to investigate the only Welsh population of Natterjack Toads, re-introduced after the Second World War. The shallow pools (scrapes) and sandy burrows provide a perfect habitat, but development pressures, predation, human activity and climate change mean life for these small, yellow-striped amphibians is precarious. How exactly do Natterjack Toads live, and what are landowners and conservationists doing to ensure they keep croaking long into the night?

With thanks also to Yvette Martin (ARC) and Darren Mason (National Trust)

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Nature Tripping Episode 21 - The New Forest
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Nature Tripping Episode 21 - The New Forest

What does the future hold for the ancient trees of the New Forest? Join us inside the Forest, at Denny Wood, for an in-depth discussion with ecologist Adrian Newton and naturalist Lynn Davy. Long term ecological monitoring of the woodlands is revealing the rapid and dynamic transformation of much-loved habitats that have existed for thousands of years. Why is this happening? Who are the winners and losers? How should we assess the condition of an ecosystem that is changing so rapidly, and how do we go about making conservation management decisions in such an ecologically and culturally complex landscape? Are processes of recovery - as well as collapse - in motion and if so, how can we promote these and ensure the future resilience of one of England’s most biodiverse places?

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Nature Tripping Episode 20 - The Mountain Hare
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Nature Tripping Episode 20 - The Mountain Hare

Cathy and Jo join wildlife biologist and hare expert Carlos Bedson on location in the Dark Peak to find out more about the only mountain hares in England. Their ancestors arrived on a train from Scotland! 500 metres up on the moor looking out for ‘white fluffy blobs’ Carlos explains more about the likes and dislikes of this amazing creature, his long-term survey work to map the extent and size of the Peak District population, how to go about seeing one, and what we can do to ensure their continued survival.

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Nature Tripping Episode 19 - The Great Yellow Bumblebee
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Nature Tripping Episode 19 - The Great Yellow Bumblebee

Join Jo and Cathy for a Gaelic adventure to find out more about one of Britain’s rarest bumblebees – the Great Yellow Bumblebee (Bombus distinguendus). We meet ecologist Janet Bowler on the dunes to discover more about what one small island has done to keep its special bee buzzing. Charlotte Vale and Molly Knowles contribute readings in Gaelic from Beataidh Banrigh Super-Bee, a story book created by the children of Tiree.

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Nature Tripping Episode 18 - Poetry and Birds in the Industrial Revolution
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Nature Tripping Episode 18 - Poetry and Birds in the Industrial Revolution

“Come, summer visitant, attach to my reed roof your nest of clay”. In this episode Jo and Cathy look back to the Victorian era with poetry scholar Clara Dawson. Clara introduces us to poems by Charlotte Smith, William Wordsworth, Christina Rosetti, Edward Thomas and Thomas Hardy, and the interweaving of human and bird worlds. What is revealed about the poets’ relationships with nature as industrialisation took grip across the country? And how might these poems spark our own imaginations, both in terms of experiencing nature’s previous plenitude, and in forging new relationships with the living world to carry us into an uncertain future? The poems are read by Clara and set to field recordings. This episode was supported by the University of Manchester.

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Nature Tripping Episode 17 - A Shropshire Graveyard
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Nature Tripping Episode 17 - A Shropshire Graveyard

This episode takes Cathy and Jo to Shropshire to explore a church graveyard. Harriet Carty, from the charity Caring for God’s Acre, explains all about these oases of species-rich grassland, and how to manage them. As well as meeting some of the plants and other creatures that make the graveyard their home - bats, rooks, butterflies, bees - they have a close encounter with an ancient yew tree, and find out how important burial grounds are to people, past and present.

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Nature Tripping Episode 16 - Little Woolden Moss
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Nature Tripping Episode 16 - Little Woolden Moss

Following on from Episode 15 Jo and Cathy make a return to the peatlands, this time to a lowland raised bog on the outskirts of Manchester and Salford. Little Woolden Moss formed over thousands of years but was almost totally destroyed in the 1990s by peat extraction – it became a barren, lifeless place, swirling with clouds of black dust. Jo and Cathy meet Jenny Bennion from the local Wildlife Trust and Dave Steel, a birdwatcher and bog volunteer, to find out how it’s now being brought back to life and becoming a wildlife haven once again.

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Nature Tripping Episode 15 - Peat Bogs
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Nature Tripping Episode 15 - Peat Bogs

Jo and Cathy venture into squelchy upland territory in search of sphagnum moss, a key species of the peat bog. Discovering that a third of the UK was once bog or fenland, and that most has now been degraded, they find out what needs to be done to restore these watery wonderlands and their carbon capturing powers. Up in Galloway they meet environmental artist Kerry Morrison and learn all about a tasty project which reconnects a local community with their peatlands.

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Nature Tripping Episode 14 - The Corncrake
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Nature Tripping Episode 14 - The Corncrake

Jo takes a trip up the west coast to the Inner Hebrides to join Cathy who is helping with the RSPB’s annual corncrake census on the Isle of Tiree. Locating these elusive birds involves listening for calling males in the dead of night. Join Jo and Cathy on a midnight journey to track them down, followed by an in-depth conversation with RSPB officer John Bowler who shares the story of the corncrake, why the Inner Hebrides remains one of the UK’s last strongholds for these birds, and what is being done to look after future generations.

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Nature Tripping Episode 13 - Learning Birdsong in the Coronavirus Lockdown - Part 4
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Nature Tripping Episode 13 - Learning Birdsong in the Coronavirus Lockdown - Part 4

Jo and Cathy resume learning birdsong in lockdown, this time tuning into the calls of the blue tit, great tit and coal tit. With Spring fast approaching, gardens, parks and woods are alive with the sounds of these three common UK tit species, but it’s easy to be confounded by all their chirping and tweeting, and treat them as background noise. In this episode Jo and Cathy set about investigating their individual sonic signatures and explore how to distinguish and disentangle (most of the time!) one species from each other. (Blue Tit @ 4m 23sec; Coal Tit @ 16m 35sec; Great Tit @ 23m 45sec)

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Nature Tripping Episode 12 - The River Colne
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Nature Tripping Episode 12 - The River Colne

Setting out to explore the River Colne, Jo and Cathy start at its source on the edge of the moors and journey downstream through urban West Yorkshire to its confluence with the River Calder. Their trip takes in weirs, walls, abandoned mills, industrial pollution, combined sewer overflows, liminal space and river life. As well as exploring the historical and present day human impacts on the river, they begin to question more deeply our relationship with rivers and the role they can play in our lives.

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Nature Tripping Episode 11 - The Grouse Moor
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Nature Tripping Episode 11 - The Grouse Moor

Vast swathes of Britain's upland are currently managed for grouse shooting. As the official start of the shooting season kicks off (12th August) Jo and Cathy finally decide to confront this controversial topic. Listen in from their local grouse moor to find out about the history of this peculiarly British pastime, the ecological and environmental consequences of managing the moors in this way, the range of stakeholders involved, and possibilities for the future.

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Nature Tripping Episode 10 - Learning Birdsong in the Coronavirus Lockdown - Part 3
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Nature Tripping Episode 10 - Learning Birdsong in the Coronavirus Lockdown - Part 3

In this episode we take the opportunity to meet the warblers, millions of whom travel thousands of miles every year, returning to the UK to breed, and sing - possibly in a tree near you! We then reveal the often overlooked acoustic charm of the long tailed tit. [Timings: Willow Warbler @ 2mins 19secs; Blackcap @ 13mins 45secs; Long tailed Tit @ 25mins 03secs]

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Episode 9 - Spring in the South Pennines
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Episode 9 - Spring in the South Pennines

As lockdown continues Cathy and Jo go out to explore their immediate locality: a post-industrial valley cut deep into the South Pennine hills. They survey the landscape from the moor tops, with the skylarks high above them, then journey down to a small wooded valley to investigate what’s living in the stream. The episode wraps up with a visit to an area of nearby upland fenced off some 20 or 30 years ago for tree planting, and a chat about the positive impacts of this small ‘rewilded’ patch of the moor.

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Episode 8 - April Dawn Chorus, Northern England
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Episode 8 - April Dawn Chorus, Northern England

This episode is a long field recording of a dawn chorus made at the beginning of April, and accompanies our podcasts on learning birdsong in the coronavirus lockdown (episodes 6 & 7). We provide a short spoken introduction, but then just leave the birds to it.

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Episode 7 - Learning Birdsong in the Coronavirus Lockdown - Part 2
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Episode 7 - Learning Birdsong in the Coronavirus Lockdown - Part 2

Coronavirus lockdown continues, but song thrushes and blackbirds are singing away in parks and gardens. Join Cathy and Jo in this episode to listen to and learn about their distinctive songs. Meanwhile the first summer visitors are back (chiff chaff), and chatty goldfinches seem to be everywhere. (Song Thrush @ 1min 55secs; Blackbird @ 8 min 35 secs; Chiff Chaff @ 18mins 0 secs; Goldfinch @ 26mins 26secs)

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Out in the wild with Cathy and Jo